Fly Casters, It’s Time for a Gut Check About Accuracy

by | Dec 17, 2024 | 16 comments

Mike showed up on time with all the gear — everything he’d need for a long day on the river, including an optimistic disposition.

I suppose the way I guide is a little different. Troutbitten tends to find the die hard anglers, often accomplished in skill, knowledgeable about the game and ready to dive into the intricacies of fly fishing for trout. That was Mike, and I knew it right away.

We stood in the small gravel lot, gearing up and swapping fish stories, while I thought about what piece of river might provide the best starting block. The section upstream was woodsier and more scenic — also holding a few larger trout — while the downstream section flowed beside railroad tracks and was more wide open.

“How accurate of a fly caster are you, Mike?” I asked.

He replied with a confidence that I hear often.

“Pretty accurate, I think, Dom,” Mike said. “I mean, I can hit a pie plate and not just a hula hoop.”

We both smiled. In every book, article or video about fly casting, it seems one or the other or both of these targets are referenced.

Candidly, I’d be happy enough for hula hoop accuracy out there. Because day to day, it’s rare to find anglers who land the fly consistently in something the size of a kid’s backyard swimming pool.

Real accuracy with a fly and a fly rod is uncommon.

Maybe because rivers don’t have any perfectly drawn hoops floating on the surface, we’re all pretty generous about what a two-foot circle really is. (Fishermen are notoriously bad at measuring things anyway, right?) Truth is, a slim few anglers can cast with real accuracy and precision.

Hitting that pie plate once is nice. But can you nail it five times in a row? I talk about refining the drift a lot — making repeated presentations in the same lane, learning the currents and adjusting tension vs slack to improve a dead drift to the point where a trout finally eats the fly on the fifth or sixth presentation. Trouble is, if the landing point for that fly is a few inches off each time, then the adjustments necessary are different, and a whole new set of variables are introduced.

READ: Troutbitten | How To Be A More Accurate Fly Caster

So Much More Than The Fly

Here’s the next question that stumps a lot of anglers. Are you accurate with where the line lands? Do you have control over where and how the line, leader and tippet will land on the water or set up overtop?

I’m routinely stunned by how often that question is returned with a blank stare. Many anglers have never thought about it, and they surely haven’t worked on it. But I’d argue that the accuracy of line, leader and tippet is more important than accuracy over the fly itself. Because . . . where’s the fly going next? It’s headed toward whatever is attached to the hook eye, of course. Unique to fly fishing is our ability to position the line and leader wherever we like. We’re not sending just one thing to a target (the fly), we’re casting and positioning the attached line and leader in an effort to improve a dead drift or to set up for stripping and swinging streamers or wet flies.

This complexity of fly, leader and line — all headed toward their own target — holds true across disciplines. Land the dry fly on the pie plate, with the tippet and leader in nearby s-curves, providing slack for a dead drift, while the fly line sets up to the side. Land the nymph on target and choose how much vertical slack is provided through a well managed tuck cast. Then land the indicator in the same lane as the fly or hover the sighter in a tight line rig over the same seam as the fly and tippet, at just the right angle (We call this sticking the landing).

See what I mean? Fly casting accuracy is more complex than hitting the old pie plate.

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Photo by Josh Darling

Hazards

Mike and I walked upstream, along the rough edge of a recently harvested field of corn.

“It’s pretty open on the left side,” I motioned. “The farmer here cuts the big trees, and they lay down in the water.”

Mike nodded. “Not a bad setup for a big trout around all that wet wood.”

“Right on,” I replied. “And we need pinpoint accuracy over the whole system to drop a fly among those branches.”

Mike’s silence concerned me a bit.

“So both sides are challenging to fish, but the far side is the outside bend. It has the undercuts and the low hanging branches. It’s kind of a maze to cast into, but it’s a fun challenge,” I said, pointing across the river with my wading staff.

“Which side, Mike?” I asked. “It’s your call.”

Mike stopped walking, and we stood at the edge of the field with a decision to make.

“Maybe that downstream section would have been the better choice,” Mike told me with a grin.

“Too late now!” I said, as I pushed him off balance. “So let’s hit the far bank. Go for broke. And we’ll work on punching the line under those limbs.”

Predictably, Mike struggled to push flies under the cover of low hanging hemlocks. The lowest boughs hovered a few feet off the water. And when he struggled, I repeatedly demonstrated the cast with Mike’s rod, accelerating dry flies, nymphs and streamers to the target. We fished them all in the next few hours. And Mike improved.

Near the obstacles of tree parts, most fly casters slow the cast down. But slow casting creates a windshield wiper arc instead of good, punchy casting loops. Accurate fly casting and great control always comes back to turnover, and that’s only achieved with speed. Our human nature is to be cautious — to be careful and slow down around the branches — but that only leads to trouble.

READ: Troutbitten | You Need Turnover

My friend, Greg, once put it this way: Crowd the hazard. Get as close to the obstacle as possible, because you’re more accurate at close distance. Good point, Greg.

The Real River

Backyard casting is great for refining the basics. But only the river, with moving water, can provide the true challenge of multi-point accuracy (fly, leader and line).

Furthermore, if you fish wide open rivers without much cover, then your definition of accurate is probably different than an angler who fishes tributaries choked with mountain laurel and deadfalls. Challenging situations are eye opening. Failure is humbling. But tying knots after the last snag is a chance for recalibration and a new approach.

I have anglers visiting from states out west who seem never to have encountered a bankside tree limb. Here in Pennsylvania, you can’t fish more than ten yards along the riverbank without needing some next-level accuracy. Either you have the accuracy, or you avoid some of the best spots. And I see a lot of that too.

Never forget what makes fly fishing unique. It’s our ability to place not only the fly on target but the leader and line at their own targets. All good anglers can hit the pie plate with an Adams, a Pheasant Tail or a Zoo Cougar. But have you thought about where the tippet and leader should land? That’s real accuracy.

Fish hard, friends.

 

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Enjoy the day.
Domenick Swentosky
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Hi. I’m a father of two young boys, a husband, author, fly fishing guide and a musician. I fish for wild brown trout in the cool limestone waters of Central Pennsylvania year round. This is my home, and I love it. Friends. Family. And the river.

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16 Comments

  1. Dom,

    Great article…I have been the Mike in this story with you before. I have had so much success with that tip you gave me when we were looking at fishing a really, really tight spot under an overhanging tree branch: Let’s work our way toward that spot with the exact cast we will need when we get there. Game changer for me…two years later I am so much more accurate and strategic

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  2. Make a video where you land a fly on a plate with s-curves in the tippet 5 times in a row. On the first 5 tries, of course, because that’s implied in the text, i.e. it’s not taking you 97 casts before you achieve the 5-in-a-row thing. I’m a doubter.

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    • Okay, you’re a doubter. A good caster could do it. But where is your assertion implied in the text anyway? The point is to simply consider where the tippet/leader/line land, and to try and be accurate with it. Would you actually prefer to land the dry fly five times in a row with a straight line that drags immediately? Come on, now.

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      • OK, the point is accuracy, as you say. In the context of fly-fishing, doesn’t the idea of being able to hit a plate 5 times in a row *have* to mean on the first 5 tries? After all, the context of fly fishing differs from the context of, say, crazy driveway hoop shots on youtube, or elaborate ping-pong-ball-in-a-cup shenanigans, where people can film themselves all day long until they finally nail a 0.01% probability shot. Taking 97 casts to hit 5 in a row accurately would have no meaning in fly fishing. The driveway hoop doesn’t go hide if someone misses the first few times, nor does the plastic cup. I appreciate your stress on accuracy. But I also find that impossible standards are a recipe for unhappiness. The plate thing seems unreasonable, especially when you’re talking about real conditions. It would take more than just a ‘good’ caster to do that. It would be entertaining to see it tested. And FWIW I’m saying this as someone who lives for the slots between low-hanging branches, I love that stuff.

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        • Thanks, JP>

          doesn’t the idea of being able to hit a plate 5 times in a row *have* to mean on the first 5 tries?

          Certainly not! Perfection is a great goal. But so what if a couple first tries are missed. You summarized the point of this article yourself. Be more accurate, yes. But accuracy of where the rest of the leader lands is the next thing to think about.

          I’m sure that a good caster could do it, and it would not take 97 tries.

          But I also find that impossible standards are a recipe for unhappiness.

          I think that’s where we see things differently. It’s not at all an impossible standard. I fished ant patterns all summer long, along the bank, under brush, into small corner pockets. I hit the mark repeatedly, in most situations. But the challenge and the occasional inaccuracy is what makes it fun.

          Lastly, the plate thing is not my mark. It’s an industry standard example that I borrowed to emphasize that the plate is only part of where accuracy should be focused.

          Cheers.
          Dom

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  3. Dom, thanks for your insights and observations. Consider collecting your written wisdom into a book of short stories.

    Wishing you happy holidays from Montana.

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    • Thanks, Bob. Right on. I’m beginning a book this winter. Cheers.

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  4. Dom,

    Great article. Pie plates in the grass in the field are not moving. That only works if you are lake fishing with no wind. River fishing and landing your line, tippet & bug is much harder than it looks. I fish and practice at the same time.
    Thanks for sharing!

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    • Same here. The backyard stuff is great when the water isn’t around though. And fly accuracy is where it all starts, while tippet/leader/fly line accuracy is where it continues.

      Cheers.
      Dom

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  5. Merry Christmas Dom!
    Had to remind myself to get in tight and “crowd the hazard” after hanging up a few craft fur jigs in the branches above the heads of some eager browns 2 weeks ago. Did that and had a good outing the rest of the day. Sorry to have missed fishing with you in 2024, but 2025’s on us and a new start. So happy for all of your successes and looking forward to all the TB “deliverables” coming up! Another good year in football for the state of PA too. The best to you and your family in 2025!

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  6. Dom, I just subscribed. Regarding the leading of nymphs through the strike zone just off the bottom: does it make sense to employ a Leisenring drift-lift, where we pause the drift a few feet upstream from the target and let the current lift the nymph off the bottom?

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    • Hi Spence. I guess it would only make sense if you think that’s actually a natural look to the nymph, for the moment, for the type of nymph. For example, eggs and worms don’t emerge, right? And mayflies, stoneflies, caddisflies spend a full year or more on the bottom drifting around before they emerge on that one day.

      Also, when they do emerge, more bugs drift back with the current rather than fight against it.

      LOTS more of those thoughts are in this article.

      https://troutbitten.com/2023/06/21/nymphing-are-we-making-too-much-of-the-induced-take/

      Cheers.
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  7. Good article AGAIN.

    Tom
    (General Bradock-cheers)

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